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WHAT WAS GREEK LOVE?

Anonymous 9025 February 2022

www.academia.edu/4905297/Pinning_Anal_Se...ks_A_Millennial_Slur
Pinning Anal Sex On The Greeks: A Millenial Slur

Edmund Marlowe25 February 2022

Have you bothered to read the comments preceding your own? Certainly you haven't bothered to give yourself even the most simplistic knowledge of the evidence or you would not, in mindless repetition of others, cite this tired drivel in oblivion of what others have written. This article is by a scholar whose often otherwise sound judgement has been sadly compromised by a manic lifelong obsession with misrepresenting this one matter, so manic indeed that he can hardly write anything at all on ancient Greece without introducing it. I already demolished the supposed "case" in the article on this website Did the Greeks Pedicate their Loved Boys? In fact I did so much too weakly, not then yet aware of the full weight of the evidence showing how utterly pathetic is the argument that the Greeks disdained pedicating boys. I hope later this year to have my article replaced with a much more forceful and detailed repudiation of this nonsense.

I am entirely open to debate, but any worthwhile debate has to be founded on primary sources, not parroting of dishonest 21st century propaganda.

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Editor26 February 2022

The article cited by Anonymous 90 appears to be the basis for Anonymous 29's earlier claim. Perhaps they are the same chap and indeed the author of the article himself? Anybody is most welcome to undertake  the task of challenging Mr. Marlowe's arguments contending that the Greeks pedicated their eromenoi, but I affirm that if the debate is to be worthy of notice on this site, it must be based on evidence from Greek sources, and further comments on the subject must offer something new here if they are not to be deleted. Anyone who does have anything to add to the debate is kindly asked to do so on the relevant webpage Did the Greeks Pedicate their Loved Boys? Anything more worth saying on this topic will be too specialist for retention on the home page.

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Dale Bach   Saturday, 16 June 2018 

Interesting. This is in line with a Scientific American article showing the strong likelihood that all human male primates were originally bisexual (and women too for that matter), as is in accord with the bisexuality of our two closest primate relatives (chimps and bonobos). That natural impulse from birth onwards was then reinforced by the natural sex play games of all children, that had originally proceeded indiscriminate of gender in the original foraging cultures (because there was simply no sense of impropriety regarding affectionate sexual touches of any kind).

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In Umbris   Wednesday, 7 November 2021

There is so much here to digest, I am taken aback.

Interestingly, many comments reflect the spirit of the age--we close our minds to issues that are not politically and socially acceptable. We accept the rewriting of history without thinking.

The curious thing (to me) is the social and cultural advances of the Ancient Greeks came about because of critical thinking, not accepting the status quo, and reaching out for superior 'modes' of understanding, whether for love or political systems. This approach of querying the norm in inspiring ways is also the essence of creative thinking.

When you realize that Christianity has formed most western attitudes and is founded on the singular principle of 'believe what I say,' it is easy to understand how we arrive at the current situation. Young males are now second class citizens, without purpose and direction. They are doomed until the next renaissance.

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